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hagel very skeptical of the ability of the united states to do that. that is a legitimate debate. but definitely when chuck hagel and jack reed traveled with president obama when he was running for office, i think this was part of their discussion. host: what kind of relationship do these two men have, the president and senator chuck hagel? guest: they do get along personally. if you look at the first term of the obama administration, president obama was elected, there were doubts about his national security experience. it was quite natural for him to pick then senator clinton to be secretary of state and keep bob gates on as secretary of defense. i think he thinks in the second term, he is not running for reelection. he has had experience, so he is much more inclined to pick somebody who is comfortable with, which is senator chuck hagel and senator john kerry. they got along in the senate, so presumably there will get along in the administration. i would add that i do think that one has to ask why, for example, the president is willing to make a flight out of the nomination? i d
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